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DrJones

Couldn't we add a category to games, such as rated team games, to organize some tournaments between teams?

We could add a teams rate stuff to players?

I'd like it, anyway :)

 
Lazlo

DrJones,

You have suggested a number of improvements to the game. Some with merit, some without.

Don't you understand that Emiel Bruijntjes, the author and owner of the game, pays almost zero attention to this website and has expressed NO INTENTION of further enhancements? In fact, he thinks people that play this game are time-wasters and malcontents. Why do you think the repeated crashes occur and have no hope of abating?

Please sign up as a member (chump).
:D

 
DrJones

Is there a way a friend of him who cares about the game as we do re take it as his account ?

 
Spir-An

I didn't get that DrJones. Say it again - in French if you like, I'll work it out (and maybe translate it).

 
Lazlo

I'll save you the trouble of translating.

NO

 
DrJones

That was totally understandable spir_an :

Is there a way [that] a friend of him [emiel](her?) who cares about the game [dominate] , as we do [as much as we do], re-take it as his account [asks emiel to sell him/her] ?

What with the explanations :) ?

 
Lazlo

There is no [chance in hell] way Emiel [him] would ever sell [been there] this cash cow [greed].

Sign up now! [lol]

 
Spir-An

Firstly you didn't write re-take as "re-take" or "retake", but as "re take", which is not how "re-take" is ever written in English - that made it ambiguous with "re" as in "about, concerning" plus "take".

Secondly the word "re-take" is not used to mean what you intended there, it can only mean "take again". What you meant is perhaps "take over".

Thirdly you'd also need a modal verb like "can" or "could" before the "take over" because you're asking "is there a way...". If you leave it without it looks like you're saying "Is there a way this is happening".

Fourthly we don't use a phrase like "take it as (someone's) account" to mean buy or sell. "Account" can mean a bank account, or a usership as any user has when they sign on to be a player here. Again that's ambiguous and confusing. I think you mean something like "son affaire", what in English would be something like "responsibility".

Fifthly... well it's alright clarifying that "of him" meant Emiel afterwards, I did get it but you didn't make it clear. Especially since you've got a "his" later on, and that refers to someone else. "As we do" doesn't mean quite the same as "as much as we do", and since that phrase came right before "re take" it was not clear that the verb "do" was not somehow associated with the verb "take" or "re-take".


To answer the question... there may be such a friend (I presume you mean an actual friend of Emiel's, rather than just someone he's acquainted with thru Dom?), but we don't know of any. Offers have been made by others such as Lazlo, and have not even been responded to. Emiel seems to dislike Dom and to not want to deal with it in any way, yet to refuse to consider passing it on to someone else. He's got every legal and some would say moral right to do that, but obviously it's very frustrating to those of us who have the vision and goodwill to see it improved and maintained better.

 
DrJones

Don't vindicate yourself please, that was a good sentence for a non english fella... anyway.

Yes i meant an actual friend of Emiel. He definitely has moral right to improve or to "give" the game..

 
Spir-An

Excuse me - "Don't vindicate yourself please"??? You asked "What with the explanations"!!!! If you don't want to know, don't ask! And don't say "that was a good sentence for a non english fella" after I've pointed out all the faults! Talk about ignoring the evidence and argument, and after it's been asked for too.

Yes i meant an actual friend of Emiel. He definitely has moral right to improve or to "give" the game..

Who is "he" there, Emiel or the friend? Who would be giving - Emiel surely? Yet my first choice for "he" would be "an actual friend of Emiel".

BTW, "Don't vindicate yourself please" would be the wrong thing to say as well - it kind of implies I'm right, which is not what you want, since "vindicate" means "show that you're right". You want something like "Don't try and defend yourself please" or the like.

 
Lazlo

I think he meant Vindaloo.

 
DrJones

What a fucking joke spir_an. "He" stands for Emiel. I dont know him, how could i know some of his friends ?

And about "what with the explanations?", search what irony means in the dictionnary.

This post was to speak about the game, not your ego man.

Don't waste my time.

 
DrJones

At least Lazlo understood it. thanks

 
Spir-An

Unfortunately it's not a fucking joke, I wish I were so it could cheer me up. How is the statement "I dont know him, how could i know some of his friends ?" relevant? I wasn't assuming you did know either of them. I was making the point that once again you were being ambiguous, apparently without realising it.

I know perfectly well what "irony" means, that does not mean I can always tell when someone is using it. Especially on the internet where we cannot see or hear subtleties of voice or body language that might give a clue. Especially for people like me who have Asperger's Syndrome and have trouble telling people's implications even when face to face.

When I asked you to restate what you said I meant it sincerely, and it seemed you understood that, so when you said "what['s] with the explanations?" I thought you meant it sincerely too and were asking me why I needed an explanation. I didn't have any reason to think otherwise, and your smiley meant that you were showing goodwill, not having a joke.

The ego comment is also completely irrelevant, my ego has not come into it. Your inability to communicate properly in English - and then dismissing a native speaker's pointing out specific faults instead of paying attention and making a change - however very much does come into it.

Don't waste my time dude.

 
Lazlo

I think you two need to change the topic to something you can both agree on.

 
Lazlo

Or this.

 
Lazlo

If that fails, then go have a read.

 
DrJones

You brings nothing to the suggestion of this post. I can suggest something about the owner of the game and his friends, and the way this owner is driving his game, without knowing them. You are a bit twisted...

 
Spir-An

I cannot understand how you can say "You brings nothing to the suggestion of this post." I might have been able to bring more to it if I had understood you better, and if you had explained yourself better when I asked, and if you had accepted that you had not expressed yourself as well as you could have when I pointed that out, and if you had not got shirty with me when I insisted you take the point rather than brushing it aside as if you know what's good English better than me. But you didn't, so I didn't.

You say I'm a bit twisted, I don't know whether that's true or not but it's certainly irrelevant to the fact that you've ignored and avoided my points, even when they were in direct answer to what you said. Whether I am twisted or not, you are evasive, you are overly proud, you are - like a lot of your countrypeople in my experience - pissy.

I know perfectly well you can make a suggestion about how Emiel and his friends are running the game without knowing them, once again that does not answer anything I said or thought and is not relevant.

BTW "You brings nothing" -> "You bring nothing"
"the suggestion of this post" - "post" is an individual posting, like this one or that last one of yours; is what you mean not the "thread"? Also it would be better to talk about the topic of this thread.
running the game of course, not driving

 
DrJones

Whatever. everytime you'd answered me, it was to emphasize this or this fault, and i'm bored with it.

"and if you had explained yourself better when I asked, and if you had accepted that you had not expressed yourself"

I did it saying "it was good for a non english native".

"as if you know what's good English better than me"

I never said or even tought that, i even told you the contrary.

On the other hand, I begins to understand why emiel just gave up on improving his game, if each time he suggested or did something (if it ever happened), he faced people like you.

Thanks for the english lesson tough.

 
DrJones

"But you didn't, so I didn't."

Are we grown-up here? Maybe i didn't do cause i didnt understand you?

Maybe yu could have forgot this and went ahead with ideas?

Maybe we can stop fighting on english syntax?

To summarize, i didnt mean "take over" as "re-take", but i was suggesting that emiel could "give" this game to another fella who cares about it.

 
Spir-An

Yeah of course you're bored, you're losing. I'm pointing out your faults in what you said because you denied you had any, after I first just asked you for clarification on what you meant.

I did it saying "it was good for a non english native".
That is not accepting that you had not expressed yourself as well as you could have, that is precisely defending what you put without listening to someone pointing out what you had done wrong. Earlier you had said "That was totally understandable", then you said "Don't vindicate yourself please", both of which are trying to maintain there was nothing wrong with the English you used, even tho I went to the trouble of pointing out exactly what was wrong with it. Basically you are in denial about it, because even if my ego is not involved maybe yours is. Maybe you're too proud of what ability you have to take a criticism. I cannot understand the response of saying to a native speaker "you are wrong that there is anything wrong with my language use". As if you are going to know better than them. Yes it may be relatively good English for someone who is not a native speaker, certainly compared to other people, but that's not the point if someone has trouble understanding it.

I never said or even tought that, i even told you the contrary.
I can't see where.

I begins to understand why emiel just gave up on improving his game, if each time he suggested or did something (if it ever happened), he faced people like you.
There's no 'people like me', Emiel has not done much improving the game since I came along, his (stated) reasons for not doing it are quite different, and there's nothing wrong with what I've done in this thread. I've chased you up because I found your responses outrageous - other people would walk away I know but it rankles with me that people like you get away with such ridiculous attitudes, I want to do something to try and make sure you don't. I started out just trying to get clarification on a post of yours I didn't quite understand, and you refused to accept I had not understood, which I find ludicrous. And on the subject of making a contribution to the topic of the thread, I did so at the end of my second post.

 
Spir-An

To summarize, i didnt mean "take over" as "re-take", but i was suggesting that emiel could "give" this game to another fella who cares about it.

How does "re take" mean "give" any more than "take over"? I've got what you mean now, but I didn't when you first posted it. But when I asked for clarification ("I didn't get that DrJones. Say it again - in French if you like, I'll work it out") you told me it was "totally understandable" and asked "What with the explanations :) ?" Have you taken this point now?

No I don't want a pissing contest over language any more than you, but if someone is going to brush aside my difficulty understanding what they say, why shouldn't I try to get them to see how unreasonable it is?

Maybe i didn't do cause i didnt understand you?

Oh, you want me to sympathise with you about not understanding now? :D

 
DrJones

"Yeah of course you're bored, you're losing"
ahahahaahahaah. is it a contest??:! :D Lol!

"Oh, you want me to sympathise with you about not understanding now? :D"

Pathetic ;)

 
Spir-An

It's an argument Jonesy-boy, it doesn't have to be a contest to be won and lost. Once again you think you have more knowledge of English usage than you do.

I agree that it's pathetic that you seriously expect me to care that you don't understand something when you've made it all too clear you don't care that I didn't.

 
Spir-An

And once again... YOU'RE AVOIDING ALL MY INCONVENIENT POINTS.

 
DrJones

It's such a poor argument saying I'm losing it. I just find you're a bit paranoïac.

I understood you'd asked me to explain my first post indeed, but clearly i tought that my (funny) explanations would have made it.

Lack of humour.

 
DrJones

I forgive you

 
Spir-An

It wasn't an argument to say you were losing the argument, it was a fact about the argument. You've demonstrated your lack of confidence in your own position by abandoning answering my points and defending what you've done. Whenever people I'm arguing with start avoiding answering points I guess their position is collapsing.

You didn't make any 'funny' explanation in response to my request for clarification, you made an attempt at explaining which only part succeeded, as I pointed out in the next post. You "thought that your explanations would have made it", and you were wrong. But then you didn't accept that, you treated me as if it was my fault I couldn't understand you, even tho you'd used not very good English. Humour doesn't come into it, but your refusal to accept your limited ability in English does.

 
DrJones

I didnt answer your points cause they were a lot out of subject! Answering would give credit to what you call "demonstration". I call it non sense.

Answer and give ideas to the post, or go away.

This is simple as that.

I dont care at all your english skills or my lack in vocabulary, i dont give a shit if you are not able to understand a simple sentence, which Lazlo understood at once by the way.

And after, when you saw I were right, you tried to justify yourslef pointing out the bad english i used. More than nasty, that is pueril and pathetic.

If your brain skills are collapsing with your reading abilities, then dont attack mine, just heal yourself.

 
Spir-An

So what if they were "out of subject", I was trying to understand what you were saying and instead of helping me you tried to deny there was anything wrong with what you had written already. How are people supposed to answer the question of your thread if they can't understand what you're saying. And why on Earth should they bother? If you want people to address the subject of the thread you need to make sure they know what you mean.

No it is not as simple as "Answer and give ideas to the post, or go away" if I'm struggling to understand what you mean. I need to understand in order to answer the TOPIC of the THREAD. If you aren't prepared to help people who want to talk on the topic of your thread, YOU go away!

I don't care about my English skills either, as long as you can understand me; but I certainly care about yours as long as I can't understand you, and you should too, or you are being rather presumptuous in a situation where you actually want replies from English-speakers. The fact that one person, such as Lazlo, understands a sentence does not mean other people will; people are not all the same, and surely you should be interested in anybody understanding you, not just one person.

But if you don't give a shit about my understanding you, I don't give a shit about you or anything you want. So I'm certainly not going to go away because you tell me to, or not "waste your time" etc. On the contrary I'm going to throw all your evasive, stubborn, prideful, contemptuous bile right back in your face, see how you like it.

I did not "saw you were right". You were not right. You said something in good faith but bad English; I didn't blame you but just tried to get clear what you meant, in good faith; you replied with a re-wording that only partly clarified, again in good faith I think, plus a protest that what you had said did not need clarifying. I posted a post to try and make clear to you thaty there were things in your language which you did not appreciate were confusing or wrong usage. I didn't do that to annoy you or falsely justify myself after realising I had "been wrong"; I did it with sincerity to show you you were wrong to imagine there was nothing wrong with the English you had used. If you believed I thought you were right and that I was justifying myself falsely, you were wrong to assume that. Perhaps you didn't understand this because your English is not as good as you think it is.

Thus, it was not nasty, puerile or pathetic, it was perfectly reasonable. However I found your post beginning "Don't vindicate yourself please" nasty, and unexpectedly so. I couldn't understand why you'd responded like that. Gradually in the subsequent posts I came to realise you were simply refusing to believe there was anything wrong with your English, even in the face of specific evidence presented. And I found that response crazy, motivated only, AFAICS, by really stubborn linguistic pride.


We've conducted this whole argument in English, even tho I offered right from the outset to try and understand you in French. If we had been using French my ability might have been better or less good than yours in English, but either way if you'd told me there was something wrong with my usage and you didn't understand me I would pay attention, take any points they made, and try and put it another way until they understood. If they offered to use English I'd take it up. This to me is not special or unusual, it's what people need to do with foreign languages and they do it all the time. Your being so stubborn in refusing to accept that your English is not as good as you thought it was is just perverse and ridiculous, and if there is anything wrong with my having pursued you about it it's not that I've bothered you unfairly, it's that I've maybe wasted my time trying to correct a stubborn, pissy fool.

 
DrJones

"even tho I offered right from the outset to try and understand you in French"

right.

If my english wasnt understandable you could not have had answered me, you filthy animal!

You were trying to correct me. Did i ask ?

I am posting for receptive people, not twisted minds.

Don't read my posts

 
DrJones

I hate arrogant and condescendant people like you by the way.

Offer me to write french...... lol

 
DrJones

Maybe that was in a nice way tough, but the form you did was such arrogant.

 
DrJones

Or maybe i was angry that day.

Anyway, i don't care anymore. You metamorphosed this thread. I 'm not interested anymore

YOU ARE RIGHT

 
DrJones

Finally, you started it.

When i explained, the very first post after you asked me for explanations, why did you do this english lesson?

was it necessary? really?

I want to improve english, but i'm not your pupil and you're not my master.

There is so much deaf talks in real life everywhere, i don't need another one here.

(and yes i should try to do ONE post to explain this all,whatever)

 
DrJones

And i apologizes if you tought i was being rude, that was not on purpose



 
Alex_metal

This coversation made my day, hahaha...

I especially liked Lazlo's response.
"There is no [chance in hell] way Emiel [him] would ever sell [been there] this cash cow [greed].

Sign up now! [lol]"

 
Killer

HI NERDS



 
TOAST

This is the most ridiculous thread on dominate game. Makes you glad that spir an doesnt rear his ugly head around here as much as he used to.
Fuck what a waste of time reading this was, thank god i was getting paid to do it. FIX THE FUCKING SITE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Seabra

Toast this thread just became the most ridiculous from you pulling it out after 2 years.


Spir and Jones both great people.

 
CharlesVIl

TOAST, I agree with you

 
Spir-An

TOAST 2009 February 13, 18:33

This is the most ridiculous thread on dominate game.

[b]So why the fuck did you bump it you gormless wazzock???[b]

Stick your head back up your arse where it belongs and cease to bother us.

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